tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post6499601253655479345..comments2024-01-17T04:20:21.902-07:00Comments on The Urban Survivalist: How much is too much?The Urban Survivalisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02152463957382927413noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post-38941159459790199192008-04-13T04:33:00.000-06:002008-04-13T04:33:00.000-06:00I've spent hundreds more than I needed on guns. I'...I've spent hundreds more than I needed on guns. I'd say I wasted hundreds but then again I've learned what I believe that I need. <BR/><BR/>I could have stopped at the surplus bolt action, 12g shotty and 22lr bolt action and I'd have been set. But I don't think I would have KNOWN that I was set if you know what I mean.<BR/><BR/>So now I've got more guns than I personally need but I look at it like this. I've got spares for my non gun owning (but military trained + farm raised) parents. <BR/><BR/>I ended up with 12g shotty (coach gun + Over and under), 1 x military surplus 308, 1 x 22lr, 1 x 223 tactical sniper set up, 1 x Steyr scout in 308 and a 30-30 (who hasn't got one of these?). Now all I need is a couple of hand guns.<BR/><BR/>If I were to be ruthless it'd be. Steyr scout (tack driver), 22lr, coach gun + 2 handguns. That's me and the missus sorted + parents looked after.<BR/><BR/>My advice for those starting out is not to spend to much on guns. If you are very unlucky you may discharge one in anger / self defense ONCE. What will be a dead set cert is that you will want to eat every day ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post-61690394029608987182008-04-09T13:33:00.000-06:002008-04-09T13:33:00.000-06:00Solid post, Urbansurvivalist, and solid logic behi...Solid post, Urbansurvivalist, and solid logic behind it. FerFAL's posts remain forefront in my mind, because that is exactly what you will see here first and foremost as the slow decent into chaos continues. Rampant crime, shortages, unemployment, loss of faith, pullback, black markets forming, hyperinflation, banks collapsing, etc.<BR/>The same occurred in other nations facing a severe downturn/early collapse in recent years (Soviet Union, Liberia, South Africa, North Ireland, etc), isolated farms and settlements were the worst off, lawlessness came to these areas hardest and soonest, and as with the failing years of the Roman empire, citizenry actually moved into the burbs and cities, not out of them, for security and resources. The rural areas and small towns were hardest hit, even in areas with no violence.....services were discontinued, trucks quit coming, stores were emptied, industries closed, etc. <BR/> <BR/>+1 on the CZ-52 and spam can of Tokarev ammo for the budget minded. I recently acquired one, solidly made, shoots incredibly straight, and very potent penetration (puts holes in 1/4" steel plate and an old kevlar helmet), if a bit lacking in stopping power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post-75361735156798633752008-04-04T21:31:00.000-06:002008-04-04T21:31:00.000-06:00It is far too easy to get focused in on guns guns ...It is far too easy to get focused in on guns guns guns and not pay attention to food and water. I know that I went through a stage like that for awhile and have just recently gotten to a somewhat balanced wholistic approach on things.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09612373437033635765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post-10134155468045749622008-04-03T00:08:00.000-06:002008-04-03T00:08:00.000-06:00This is probably the best post I've read in awhile...This is probably the best post I've read in awhile that sums it up so succinctly as does this post. I believe anyone will stay close to home if they can and if you look to "bug-out" you may put yourself in more trouble than you and the wife and kids can handle. Most of us who live in the "boonies" prefer it that way for a reason. STAY THE HELL AWAY!!tjbbpgobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12207114326894484290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post-144383864470611162008-04-02T18:58:00.000-06:002008-04-02T18:58:00.000-06:00Obviously the media is going to have an easier tim...Obviously the media is going to have an easier time sticking close to the cities. It doesn't surprise me that there were still people hoping that the grocery stores would be restocked after weeks had gone by. It also doesn't surprise me that the news cameras were camping out there rather than at people's houses in the country. Just remember that when you turn on the news you only see what the news is filming. <BR/><BR/>Have you ever heard of Ferfal? He's given everyone a lot of insight into what it's like living through an economic collapse where the government is still functional on some level but things aren't exactly honky dory. One thing he described that stuck out in my mind was how bands of thugs would attack homesteads and farms because a) they tend to have plenty of resources and b) they're isolated enough that they can do whatever they want with no fear. These guys would take their time and even torture and kill the residents until they got bored and moved on. If a bad situation lasts long enough then eventually the bad guys are going to realize where the "easy" targets are. Desperate times call for desperate measures. These are the people that I consider "the golden horde". I don't imagine everyone migrating from the city to scour the countryside for whatever resources they can find to survive. I just imagine a lot more resorting to criminal behavior to get what they need.The Urban Survivalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152463957382927413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-359115408034187666.post-12205967801803135192008-04-02T11:13:00.000-06:002008-04-02T11:13:00.000-06:00I am a regular reader of this blog and really enjo...I am a regular reader of this blog and really enjoy it, however the last couple of sentences said some things that I just don't know about. I am referring to the so called "Golden Horde" milling about the country side looking for food. I am sure that there will be some of that going on, but in a true TEOTWAWKI situation, I am persuaded that most people will be sticking to familiar ground i.e. walmart, kroger, whatever your local chain grocer is etc. I say this because even though most people know that meat comes from chicken and cows, most people do not make the connection between the animal itself and food. Look at what happened when Katrina occurred. Weeks after the flood had already wiped what it could out of existence, and the looters and pillagers had already raided all the local retailers, there were still tv news reports showing people milling around walmarts and grocery stores looking at the empty shelves. Why did they do that? Well, because it was "home" and it was what they were used to. They could have moved along long before, but they did not. Now this was just a localized phenomenon, not a Sit-x where everyone is in the same boat and nobody knows where there is greener grass. These people knew that they could move on and find what they needed in another city/state, but they did not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com